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On 22 July 2007, The Alternative
Information Center
(AIC) spoke with Hatem Qafisheh, a prominent Hamas affiliated member of the
Palestinian Legislative Council at his home in the West Bank city of Hebron. Qafisheh studied
contemporary Middle Eastern politics and Islamic studies at university and runs
a tour business for people making the Hajj pilgrimage. He is a longtime
political prisoner, and is a former deportee to Marj a-Zuhour, in addition to
being a survivor of the 1994 Hebron
massacre, where 29 Palestinians worshippers were killed by US/ Israeli citizen
Baruch Goldstein at an early-morning prayer service. Qafeisheh was arrested and
detained following those events, and was a leading figure in the “Intifada of
the Administrative Detainees”—a hunger strike for prisoner rights held in, Megiddo,
Damoun, and Telmond prisons in the mid 1990s.
AIC: Can you explain about yourself and your personal
situation here in Hebron?
HQ: My name is Hatem Qafisheh and I was born and live in Hebron. I have been
elected by my people for the Legislative Counsel in January 2006
AIC: You have been a political prisoner,
recently released. Can you tell us about your situation right now, and why you
were imprisoned?
HQ: In total, I have spent nineteen months in prison, at
different periods of time. During the first Intifada and also in this second
one. I was arrested by the Palestinian Authority for three and a half months
after we refused the Wye Plantation Agreement during Arafat’s time.
AIC: Hamas took control
of Gaza two
months ago. What is the context in which Hamas decided to take a hold of Gaza’s security?
HQ: First of all, I want to emphasize the geographical unity that
we should have for Gaza and the West Bank. According to what happened in Gaza, in my opinion, the Palestinian case
needs a serious discussion and investigation to see what happened during the
clashes two months ago. I am now calling all the Arabs from outside to engage
in such investigation to see who is wrong or right. The responsibility falls on
the occupation: the Israelis needs Hamas to control Gaza
and be weak, and Fatah to control the West Bank
and be very weak also. This is against the Palestinians in general.
I make a call now to all the parties in Palestine
to control the situation and to start an investigation to find out what really
happened in Gaza.
AIC: Are you saying
that Hamas had to take control of the situation in Gaza because the Palestinian Authority could
not do it and Fatah was too weak?
HQ: What happened in Gaza
was due to security considerations. Before the clashes and before the current
problems, Gaza was
in a very difficult security situation. All the citizens lived in a very
problematic situation. Most of the Palestinians did not agree to solve the
problem in a military way. While this was happening, I was still in prison, but
many inmates wrote letters and made comments stating that they did not want
violence and made many calls for everyone to solve the problem by means of
dialogue. Now, it is clearer than ever, that the only way to keep the unity of
the Palestinian people is to sit at the table and talk
AIC: The international
media called this a coup d’etat. In your words, what happened exactly, and how
would you define this?
HQ: We know that the media outside, in general, did not respect
the results of the [Palestinian] elections. By our experience, we have seen
that the media is not objective, and they stand with Israel and against us. For example,
when all the conventions of international law gave the right for people under
occupation to resist, the media from outside started calling us terrorists.
About the fact that they called this a coup d’etat, it makes no sense. Hamas
has [57] percent of legislative members, who were elected in free and
democratic elections. How can you take over what is already yours?
AIC: So do you think
that we will see the same violence that we saw in Gaza, in the West Bank? What
are the chances of something like this happening in this side of the
Territories?
HQ: What happened in Gaza
will not happen again, because there are many people who want dialogue and
negotiation. In the West Bank, we are calling
our people not to take actions against what happened. Our situation in the West Bank is not so good, because we have a lot of
political prisoner’s now and many organizations have been damaged. Also we are
suffering a lot of attacks in the municipalities that belong to Hamas.
For example, the other day they attacked a child in a school, because he
was writing Islamic things on the wall. They told this child that if he was to
do that again or tell his family, they would arrest him again.
I personally have met many security officers and important people in Hebron, and I have asked
them not to take any actions, so as not to escalate the violence.
AIC: Is there any
possibility that the clashes reproduce again in Gaza?
HQ: I hope we will not see this situation anymore, “inshalla,”
and we are putting all our efforts not to return to it. Unfortunately, with
what is going on, all the arrests and the hostility, this is a bad signal,
especially in the West Bank. I have tried to
talk with Hamas’ soldiers and people not to reply to this provocations, because
it can only lead to make the situation worst.
AIC: What is your opinion about the fact that Abbas decided to
annul the Unity Government?
HQ: A president has the right to stop any government, this right
is guaranteed in the, Palestinian basic law, but all of us know that what
happened is a political decision, not if it is something legal or illegal, the
discussion is not here.
We see how so many people are refusing the emergency government. As a Legislative
Council Member, I believe that the decision taken by Abbas was not discussed
seriously. The matter here is that we need as Palestinians a consensus between the
political parties and the organizations that will lead us to a real unity.
I think what Abbas did was a very bad decision.
AIC: Do you believe that what happened in Gaza
will give Israel
an excuse to enter?
HQ: Sure, Israel
will use any problems inside Palestinian, internal or external. We saw how Israel started doing attacks in some parts of Gaza, killing tenths of people, and injuring many more Israel for sure
will always take advantage of our differences or our mistakes.
AIC: Talking about Israel. How will the Hamas demonstration
of force affect the so-called peace process? Under what terms and conditions is
Hamas willing to talk peace with Israel?
HQ: I am not going to talk about new things now. As Sheikh Ahmed
Yassin—who was murdered by the Israelis and was the founder of Hamas—stated, Hamas
is ready to make a long-term cease-fire and at the same time to go ahead in a
political process based on giving the Palestinians their rights. This is not
new, as I said, and we made a statement about this. I can talk about peace like
this, if they are willing to give Palestinians the West Bank and Gaza and make a state.
AIC: You occupy a seat on the Palestinian Legislative Council for
Hamas. Since the clashes in Gaza,
do you fear any reprisal, or any attack from Fatah or the Israelis?
HQ: We have other Hamas legislative members who were arrested
from the first day of the fighting. More than this, our offices in Hebron are closed; I have
to do all the meetings in my house. Before this, they had already confiscated
all the computers and documents from the offices. Five hundred meters away from
here, there is an Israeli military base,
any second they can come in and arrest me. I am a Legislative Council Member,
but I have no security at all, and we know that when Israelis want to implement heir policies, they do not ask anyone.
AIC: Can you see the formation of a new unity government anywhere
in the near future?
HQ : No, I don't see it, but we are all working towards it. I need to see in which direction Abbas is going.
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